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This might sound a bit silly. But can I add from the dealership air suspensions? Or even the 360 camera?
Shouldn't be an issue as it's just a software upgrade and to replace the front censors and replace the suspensions. Is it possible?
Or once bought it cannot be changed?

As Modena said, everything is virtualy possible.
My estimation for this 2 retrofits is close to 10.000 euros
 
Discussion starter · #23 ·
Would you pretty please share where you purchased these? Everywhere I look it seems to be pre-order only.

Thank you!
Miller Motorcars Boutique. You might need to call them directly as I did and they confirmed that they had them in stock and could ship them out. I got 2 sets so that both front and back doors could be styling
 
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I am planning to add some carbon fiber pieces to the exterior (rear tailgate trim, A, B and C pillars, on both sides, also side mirror housings) so I was curious about whether you applied something.
Link to the rear strip in CF? I have seen the other bits but not the hatch trim. Is it a full replacement or a stick on?

I am 95% sure the mirror caps are directly from a Stelvio btw. If that's true we should be able to buy the OEM Stelvio CF mirror caps (can be found for ~700), which are full replacements with clips versus the aftermarket ones that are shells only and need to be epoxied in place (this is true of all Alfas sadly despite every other brand having aftermarket full replacements).
 
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Link to the rear strip in CF? I have seen the other bits but not the hatch trim. Is it a full replacement or a stick on?

I am 95% sure the mirror caps are directly from a Stelvio btw. If that's true we should be able to buy the OEM Stelvio CF mirror caps (can be found for ~700), which are full replacements with clips versus the aftermarket ones that are shells only and need to be epoxied in place (this is true of all Alfas sadly despite every other brand having aftermarket full replacements).
Mirror cap options are abundant at Trident Madness. I was waiting for a direct replacement that did not need epoxy, that had factory clips on it. They have 4 different possibilities now from Feroce. Cap to go over your existing, direct replacement but requiring epoxy and therefore not removable if you need to access mirror motor, direct replacement incorporating OEM mirror caps with clips, and version in forged, “red” CF, and also CF with Italian flag colors at base.

The tailgate trim is overlay - 3M automotive tape.
 
Mirror cap options are abundant at Trident Madness. I was waiting for a direct replacement that did not need epoxy, that had factory clips on it. They have 4 different possibilities now from Feroce. Cap to go over your existing, direct replacement but requiring epoxy and therefore not removable if you need to access mirror motor, direct replacement incorporating OEM mirror caps with clips, and version in forged, “red” CF, and also CF with Italian flag colors at base.

The tailgate trim is overlay - 3M automotive tape.
Their covers with clips are just the overlay glued onto a Giulia mirror cover (you can see the Giulia p/n in their pics of the clips).

Candidly, I would avoid Madness/Feroce simply because their business model is reselling AliExpress stuff you can buy yourself for 1/3rd the cost. All their little brands you’ve never heard of are exactly that; they are all owned by Madness and essentially exist to confuse the customer. Some of the stuff is terrible. Some is decent. You won’t know until it arrives (same as if you just bought it directly yourself for substantially less).
 
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Their covers with clips are just the overlay glued onto a Giulia mirror cover (you can see the Giulia p/n in their pics of the clips).

Candidly, I would avoid Madness/Feroce simply because their business model is reselling AliExpress stuff you can buy yourself for 1/3rd the cost. All their little brands you’ve never heard of are exactly that; they are all owned by Madness and essentially exist to confuse the customer. Some of the stuff is terrible. Some is decent. You won’t know until it arrives (same as if you just bought it directly yourself for substantially less).
Tell me more….I ordered everything so far of off of eBay and was going to inspect the quality, and if it’s exceptional or at least excellent, then I will install it. If it isn’t, then I was going to order from Madness (because their GoPedal Pro is a nice product) and because of their claims:
  • Designed to replace the factory mirror caps
  • 100% Genuine Carbon Fiber Exterior bonded to new OEM Maserati Mirror Covers
  • OEM Backing and Retaining Clips for a perfect fit
  • Constructed from high-quality prepreg carbon fiber material
  • Manufactured using autoclave technology for superior strength and durability
  • Finished with a high gloss clear coating for a long-lasting shine
  • Designed to exact specifications for a precise fit
  • Replaces the original factory mirror covers with ease
  • Crafted with the same materials used by leading luxury car brands such as Ferrari and Lamborghini
  • We have personally installed these and can confirm their excellent fitment.
So all this is BS - and all their product is sourced from same Chinese warehouse?
 
Tell me more….I ordered everything so far of off of eBay and was going to inspect the quality, and if it’s exceptional or at least excellent, then I will install it. If it isn’t, then I was going to order from Madness (because their GoPedal Pro is a nice product) and because of their claims:
  • Designed to replace the factory mirror caps
  • 100% Genuine Carbon Fiber Exterior bonded to new OEM Maserati Mirror Covers
  • OEM Backing and Retaining Clips for a perfect fit
  • Constructed from high-quality prepreg carbon fiber material
  • Manufactured using autoclave technology for superior strength and durability
  • Finished with a high gloss clear coating for a long-lasting shine
  • Designed to exact specifications for a precise fit
  • Replaces the original factory mirror covers with ease
  • Crafted with the same materials used by leading luxury car brands such as Ferrari and Lamborghini
  • We have personally installed these and can confirm their excellent fitment.
So all this is BS - and all their product is sourced from same Chinese warehouse?
The one in bold. They epoxy (JB Weld is probably the best for this, so maybe that) their CF cover piece (which is ~40 bucks directly) onto OEM parts and sell it at a premium because it now has clips. It's a CF piece glued on top of the OEM cap so you will see the seam where the cap abuts the glass trim - and since mirrors are eye level you will absolutely look at that seam every day.

Here is the cost of the OEM parts (they likely buy these cheaper)

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Big picture, though. The quality wont be there. Their Feroce stuff is pretty bad based on how it fits / looks on Giulia. I wouldn't expect this to be different.

Mirrors are tough because they are so line of sight. I have had good and bad experiences with aftermarket replacements. On Italian cars, I just buy the OEM ones because the aftermarket isn't terrific - it's just too small. On German cars the aftermarket is bigger / more advanced so they make nicer replacement mirror caps.
 
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The one in bold. They epoxy (JB Weld is probably the best for this, so maybe that) their CF cover piece (which is ~40 bucks directly) onto OEM parts and sell it at a premium because it now has clips. It's a CF piece glued on top of the OEM cap so you will see the seam where the cap abuts the glass trim - and since mirrors are eye level you will absolutely look at that seam every day.

Here is the cost of the OEM parts (they likely buy these cheaper)

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Big picture, though. The quality wont be there. Their Feroce stuff is pretty bad based on how it fits / looks on Giulia. I wouldn't expect this to be different.

Mirrors are tough because they are so line of sight. I have had good and bad experiences with aftermarket replacements. On Italian cars, I just buy the OEM ones because the aftermarket isn't terrific - it's just too small. On German cars the aftermarket is bigger / more advanced so they make nicer replacement mirror caps.
Other concern is durability - hazing over time, cracking etc. getting these onlay/overlay pieces and 3M adhering them. Even though it’s reversible, if look “pretty” out of the box, but then they only last a year and start looking jank, then it’s a damn chore to get them off and get everything cleaned up and polished underneath.

Beginning to have second thoughts on A, B, C pillars and mirror caps. The tailgate trim cover piece I think is super easy to remove and clean up over the chrome - so less hesitation with adhering that and then deleting it when it starts looking worn. I know when these things arrive they are going to look real glossy and puurrrty, which will make me want to apply them. But again, will they stay that way? For how long, 6 months, a year, two?
 
@PrimaSerie, have you considered the Ragazzon Axle-back exhaust with or without their center section? I contacted Trident Madness a while back to see if the Ragazzon center section would work with the stock Axle-back section, but it does not. Their center section can only be used with their Axle-Back exhaust. I really like the boxed carbon tips of the stock exhaust so am hesitant to replace it with the rounded Ragazzon ones, though the sound improvement would evidently be significant.
 
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@PrimaSerie, have you considered the Ragazzon Axle-back exhaust with or without their center section? I contacted Trident Madness a while back to see if the Ragazzon center section would work with the stock Axle-back section, but it does not. Their center section can only be used with their Axle-Back exhaust. I really like the boxed carbon tips of the stock exhaust so am hesitant to replace it with the rounded Ragazzon ones, though the sound improvement would evidently be significant.
Can’t do an exhaust. The wife would kill me. I did an exhaust (among other things) on my Cayenne Turbo S and she hated it, so much so that she refused to drive in it. I wound up having to remove it and change it back to stock.

I also had an off-road exhaust on my Wrangler Rubicon that was very loud and she complained about that, and so did our little boys 😂.

So yes, I looked at it, contemplated it in my head but I can never follow through on the Ragazzon.
 
@PrimaSerie, have you considered the Ragazzon Axle-back exhaust with or without their center section? I contacted Trident Madness a while back to see if the Ragazzon center section would work with the stock Axle-back section, but it does not. Their center section can only be used with their Axle-Back exhaust. I really like the boxed carbon tips of the stock exhaust so am hesitant to replace it with the rounded Ragazzon ones, though the sound improvement would evidently be significant.
What are you hoping to achieve with an exhaust? More sound? Different sound? Have you considered doing a valve controller?

An aftermarket exhaust like the one you mentioned likely comes with its own valve controller but it’s possible to buy just the controller and use it on your stock exhaust. It’s usually only a few hundred bucks as well.

You can dissociate the exhaust valve from the drive mode so you can make the car quiet or loud (100% open will be louder than Corsa) when you feel like it. It’s a good option for the married among us because you can make the car stock quiet when it needs to be.
 
What are you hoping to achieve with an exhaust?
With my exhaust, as I drive by, I want:
  • Bicyclists to soil their Lycra shorts and ride into ditches
  • Fainting goats in the next county to collapse like rows of dominoes
  • V12 Ferrari and Lamborghini drivers to gawk in disbelief and turn Cerignola olive green with envy
  • To be feared in my neighborhood
  • Dogs to howl, birds to fall from the sky, and women on sidewalks to drop panties
So really ... I’ve owned ten Italian cars and motorcycles. Still have five of them. They all have a soul, and most a sound that resonates with lovers of Italian combustion engines. My wife’s Ghibli has a 3 liter TT V6 supplied by Ferrari that sounds sublime. I just want my Grecale’s 3 liter TT V6 with dual plugs per cylinder and F1 inspired pre-combustion chamber to sound worthy of the name NETTUNO.

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owns 2023 Maserati Grecale Trofeo
With my exhaust, as I drive by, I want:
  • Bicyclists to soil their Lycra shorts and ride into ditches
  • Fainting goats in the next county to collapse like rows of dominoes
  • V12 Ferrari and Lamborghini drivers to gawk in disbelief and turn Cerignola olive green with envy
  • To be feared in my neighborhood
  • Dogs to howl, birds to fall from the sky, and women on sidewalks to drop panties
So really ... I’ve owned ten Italian cars and motorcycles. Still have five of them. They all have a soul, and most a sound that resonates with lovers of Italian combustion engines. My wife’s Ghibli has a 3 liter TT V6 supplied by Ferrari that sounds sublime. I just want my Grecale’s 3 liter TT V6 with dual plugs per cylinder and F1 inspired pre-combustion chamber to sound worthy of the name NETTUNO.

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I agree but unfortunately due to new regulations all new cars are becoming so much quieter :cautious: especially in Europe, yet electric cars are having to add sound for safety reasons :ROFLMAO:
 
Install couldn’t be more simple. Would you consider doing this? I’m waiting on the Trident Madness version, but perhaps this is the wiser/better way to go?
I would consider doing this but would want to see it installed on a few first and await feed back, some of these quoted performance upgrades they post are a little over inflated, where as manufactures tend to under estimate, not sure how true but Iv'e heard figures being thrown around that the Trofeo is more realistically 0 to 60 in 3.3 secs as standard.
 
With my exhaust, as I drive by, I want:
  • Bicyclists to soil their Lycra shorts and ride into ditches
  • Fainting goats in the next county to collapse like rows of dominoes
  • V12 Ferrari and Lamborghini drivers to gawk in disbelief and turn Cerignola olive green with envy
  • To be feared in my neighborhood
  • Dogs to howl, birds to fall from the sky, and women on sidewalks to drop panties
So really ... I’ve owned ten Italian cars and motorcycles. Still have five of them. They all have a soul, and most a sound that resonates with lovers of Italian combustion engines. My wife’s Ghibli has a 3 liter TT V6 supplied by Ferrari that sounds sublime. I just want my Grecale’s 3 liter TT V6 with dual plugs per cylinder and F1 inspired pre-combustion chamber to sound worthy of the name NETTUNO.

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That’s a worthy aspiration. I hope you get there and tell us all what you did, lol.


I love the plate btw. Nice touch!
 
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