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Sorry you're having issues @WarrenB .

I'm 48 hours into my Grecale Trofeo ownership with no issues. A couple of things I've learned about new cars and motorcycles is that they have VERY high parasitic drain on the installed battery. Thus, while the car is in stock at the dealer on the lot, the battery is draining. It's not unusual for a battery to be just strong enough to start at the dealer, but will not fully recharge through the alternator charging system on the way home. Thus, the first stop at a gas station or at home renders the battery too weak to start the next time unless properly charged, or it presents low voltage to the vehicle's electronics which can be quite troublesome to sensors, settings, etc. Unfortunately, car and motorcycle dealers almost never do a complete initial charge to a battery before delivery. That battery "initiation charge" is one key to long term battery health, and proper electrical support of vehicle electronics.

So, doing my own charge on Day 1 of ownership is a habit I have formed. I have six Deltran Battery Tender Plus units for motorcycles and a garage-queen car, so it was easy for me to add the battery tender pigtail to the Grecale battery and connect it to the Deltran unit (a "Smart" tender) for a complete charge, which ended up taking nearly 11 hours. You can use a regular 2A/10A/70A charger and set it at 10A for a quicker charge, but a Smart tender works well unattended and will cease trickle when the battery is fully charged.

Given the evidently high parasitic drain on the Grecale battery, I intend to put in on a tender any time I'm not driving it for a week. My six (Grecale will be seventh) battery tenders are connected to a power strip that is plugged into a wifi plug with a scheduler. I run the battery tenders on a schedule of 18 hours, twice a week. Several of my vehicles also have very high parasitic battery drain.

Regarding your issues:
1) I'm not sure if my wireless charging is working or not - haven't checked - do you have to turn on wireless charging in a menu?
2) The stereo sounds good. I did notice that when a Waze direction comes on and interrupts the music, it returns to music on the right channel a second or so before the left channel. I think that happens in one of my other cars too so it may be more Apple Carplay related.
3) The doors seem to lock and unlock fine using both keys, and the mirrors seem to fold when locked, so I guess that's all working. I don't think it beeps at me but if I check the door when the key is away from the car, the door is locked. The door did unlock once by grabbing the handle with the key in my pocket, so I guess that is working.
4) Boot kick sensor - can't imagine ever using that but sounds kinda fun. I guess.
5) My experience is that door rattles are the easiest for dealers to troubleshoot.
6) Batteries. There's just too much tech and too many sensors running all the time on new cars and motorcycles. I know some people are not in favor of using battery tenders, but they prevent the type of voltage drops that can cause issues with computers, ECUs, and flash memory /chip storage in cars with high battery parasitic loss. Voltage drops or improperly initiated batteries can cause a vehicle to have ongoing issues with retaining settings and operating electronic functions properly. Many issues that people think are sensor problems are the result of voltage drops. Even if the car is able to start, the battery may be presenting low voltage to the sensors and electronics when the car is off.

And if I haven't convinced you yet to the benefits of smart battery tenders, I usually get 6-7 years of life out of new lead acid, AGM or lithium car / motorcycle battery using battery tenders on a regular schedule.

One of my early impressions: I took it for an 80 mile drive this morning. The Trofeo's "Sport" mode has a very slight intrusion that you can feel in the steering response, even when traversing a fairly easy corner. I would have expected the intrusion to be felt only when tire grip necessitated. The Corsa mode, however, has no intrusion and thus the steering feels much more natural. I'm sure I'll post other impressions as I go along.

Good luck sorting your issues.

 

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What means close? How close the key have to stay to the car and the car to feel it and drains the battery?

I will collect the car tomorrow, and we will start a small road trip after. So, tomorrow night our room will be 12-15m from the car...35-45ft.

Is that to close??

I strongly fear I will not make it back home on Sunday ))

I have heard that some people have success wrapping their car keys in aluminum foil to shield them from communicating with their car. YMMV

 

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@edit. Thanks for your reply. I'm quite a bit older than you, and have driven more miles and (probably) owned more motorcycles and cars than you. But this is not a pissing match right.?

That said, in recent years, the number of drains on a battery when the car is not in use is not comparable to most cars older than 5-6 years. A 2017 BMW may not be comparable in parasitic drain to some newer cars. Anyway, believe what you want, but parasitic drain is a thing. Some vehicles have very little parasitic drain - others have considerable drain. Good luck with your experiences and assumptions.

 

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I have to agree with @edit - These new cars should NOT need trickle charging

Our Modena often sits for a 7+ days between journeys, without any battery charging or failure issues.

Back in early May the local dealer installed a Software Update, which I was told, primarily addressed excessive battery discharge

@Tony Mac I totally agree that batteries shouldn't NEED trickle charging. And 7+ days SHOULD be easily achieved by any healthy, well initiated battery. I have 3 other cars (2015-2020 models) that all have sat for a few weeks without a battery issue.

Unfortunately, it's not always the case in that some new cars (and motorcycles) have high enough parasitic drain, and combined with poorly initiated batteries, there can be issues. I have one '20 car and a few motorcycles that cannot sit for a few weeks without issue. The manufacturers of them actually ship battery tenders with the vehicles. LOL

Even my Maserati dealer warned me not to let my Grecale sit for more than 2-3 weeks without being driven or on a battery tender.

Hopefully those software updates make it easier for all of us to maintain battery health. Sounds like they found some systems that had high parasitic drain issues and resolved them by having software control demand when car is not in use.

This might be interesting reading for some: What is 'Normal' for Parasitic Draw?

 

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@WarrenB :
I can only speak about two German Maserati dealers, they know their products and explain every thing about a model during delivery. And spent a lot of time with the customer. 🇮🇹👍

In my area the Porsche dealer has a middling reputation and turns over sales people more than average. The Maserati dealer has provided me excellent service and employs sales people which meet my expectations regarding pre-sale experience. I think this is a dealer level issue, not a manufacturer level issue

 

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Guys, can you check how hot are the rims after short driving?
Lets say after even a 5 miles city driving, the rims are hot after my standars.

Front or rear or both?

Mine are fine not hot at all, but the brakes on the Trofeo are totally different to the GT and Modena anyway. On the Trofeo they have drilled and ventilated larger discs and 6 pot lager calipers, and the wheel design is quite open to air circulation, along with larger air intake from the front.

Additionally, the GT/Modena rear brakes use Continental floating calipers, whereas the Trofeo uses Brembo 4-piston fixed calipers on the rear. Floating calipers have been known to have sticking failure caused by dirt or corrosion at the points of movement

 

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Couldn't have said it better myself, @EDZ

 

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I’m 5’11” and 165-170. I think the seats are quite comfortable for cruising and supportive for spirited driving.

 

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Tough lesson. I had an incident with keys in a BMW in the 90's which had me personally getting trapped inside the car in the heat of the summer. Since then, the keys always stay in my pocket. Glad your lesson didn't result in bodily harm to your child

 

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Does your maserati lock itself with the keys inside?

I don't know. As I said, I just keep the key on me at all times, inside or outside of any vehicle. Especially since I had a negative experience decades ago. My nature is to look for solutions or work-arounds that enable me to deal with issues. If I were in your shoes with kids and a purse, I'd find some other way to attach the key to my person at all times

My Grecale Trofeo had its first Annual Service last month which was the first time it had been to the dealer since I bought it new. There may have been issues with the car working in ways I would not have predicted, but I tend to just adapt and work around them.

Maybe since 5 of my current 10 vehicles are Italian, I don't get too worked up over issues that are personably solvable